Evidence of meeting #42 for Finance in the 42nd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was federal.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Carinna Rosales  Co-Director, Supporting Employment & Economic Development (SEED) Winnipeg Inc.
Janet Lane  Director, Centre for Human Capital Policy, Canada West Foundation
Ralph Groening  Vice President, Association of Manitoba Municipalities
Paul Hagerman  Director, Public Policy, Canadian Foodgrains Bank
James Hicks  National Coordinator, Council of Canadians with Disabilities
Chuck Davidson  President and Chief Executive Officer, Manitoba Chambers of Commerce
Greg Dandewich  Senior Vice President, Economic Development Winnipeg Inc.
Don Leitch  President and Chief Executive Officer, Business Council of Manitoba
Dan Mazier  President, Keystone Agricultural Producers
Brian Innes  Vice-President, Government Relations, Canola Council of Canada
Carolynn Constant  Enhanced Service Delivery Case Worker, Opaskwayak Cree Nation
Teresa Eschuk  Regional Vice-President, Prairies and the North, Union of Canadian Transportation Employees
Marianne Hladun  Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada
Paul Moist  As an Individual
Taylor Anne Livingston  As an Individual
Josh Levac  As an Individual
Althea Guiboche  As an Individual
Anders Bruun  As an Individual

11:30 a.m.

Senior Vice President, Economic Development Winnipeg Inc.

Greg Dandewich

Right now, the numbers that come in from The Conference Board of Canada, which all our counterparts look at—

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Is that for the city or is that for the province?

11:30 a.m.

Senior Vice President, Economic Development Winnipeg Inc.

Greg Dandewich

They do a metropolitan outlook.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

What's that?

11:30 a.m.

Senior Vice President, Economic Development Winnipeg Inc.

Greg Dandewich

A metropolitan outlook basically takes a look at each of the major cities across Canada in terms of their GDP growth. I haven't seen the latest numbers, but I think it's probably tracking at about 1.8%—

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Which is less that the provincial average.

11:30 a.m.

Senior Vice President, Economic Development Winnipeg Inc.

Greg Dandewich

—which is less than the provincial average.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

That's interesting. Thank you.

You spoke about the importance of data. As you know, the first decision of the new government was to reinstate the long-form census. Could you comment on how that's going to help alleviate some of the data concerns that you have?

11:30 a.m.

Senior Vice President, Economic Development Winnipeg Inc.

Greg Dandewich

Fundamentally, right now, when we take a look at information with respect to the economy, we don't have granular level data at a metropolitan level. Unfortunately, that puts us at a disadvantage, particularly with our competitors in the United States who have very granular information at a metropolitan level.

I suspect that the long-form census will be able to generate more information. I think that, fundamentally, a systemic change needs to take place to understand what type of information is critical for communities to have in order to better position ourselves to be more competitive. Really, that comes from having conversations with organizations such as ourselves and our counterparts across the Consider Canada City Alliance. Because we're working with these companies day in and day out, we see where there are gaps in information.

For Statistics Canada, the long-form census is a great start, but I think a much broader perspective is needed in terms of Statistics Canada looking at portfolios for Innovation, Science and Economic Development and Global Affairs.

We work very closely with Global Affairs directly through the Consider Canada City Alliance. We do two missions a year with the federal government in key international marketplaces to attract foreign direct investment, but we're limited by some of that granular information we really require.

11:30 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Thank you very much.

Thank you very much for your remarks on the challenges that the town of Churchill faces. I know Minister Bains was here just last week. He announced $4.6 million. Our government understands that's a very short-term solution focused on creating jobs to try to help alleviate some of the pain.

Something that you mentioned that really stuck out for me was the nationalization of the port. Is there a dollar figure on how that will help in terms of economic activity if the government does make that decision?

11:30 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

We don't have a dollar figure. The difference with going to a port authority versus having a corporation run it is, of course, there is a profit margin with a corporation. Basically, if it were to be turned into a port authority, it would be governed by a board of directors with federal appointees, provincial appointees, municipal appointees, and hopefully first nations' appointees so that decisions that are made on how the port operates are good for the community. Because the one thing you have to recognize is that the rail line that goes up to the port is the only point of communication. You can't send a snowmobile by airplane. You can't afford to do that, so, in effect, one corporation is holding all the northern communities hostage, and they have no intention of investing and diversifying, or building more storage facilities.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

What's the unemployment rate in your area?

11:35 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

I want to say it was about 14%, I believe, according to the last numbers from Service Canada, and this is recognizing that the community has about 800; and anywhere from 60 to 80, to over 120 are employees of the port.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Sorry, what was the population of the area?

11:35 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

It's about 800 people in total.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

It's 800, not 800,000.

October 6th, 2016 / 11:35 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

It is 800 people.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Okay.

11:35 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

At the time when there was a military base and when the Wheat Board was shipping through the Port of Churchill, the community, I want to say, was about 12,000 to 18,000, so it has dropped down.

The port is their main employer.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

So out of the 800, did 120 people used to work at the port?

11:35 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

In the heydays, when the Wheat Board was operating and shipping, it was upward of 125 of our members. Lately—

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Is there no other industry in the area?

11:35 a.m.

Regional Executive Vice-President, Prairies Region, Public Service Alliance of Canada

Marianne Hladun

No. There's tourism. Basically, it's a tourism community, or the port.

11:35 a.m.

Liberal

Raj Grewal Liberal Brampton East, ON

Okay. Thank you very much.

I'll go to canola. I'd like to hear your comments. The Prime Minister was in China. He got a deal struck on canola. What percentage of exports go to China?

11:35 a.m.

Vice-President, Government Relations, Canola Council of Canada

Brian Innes

Approximately 40% of our canola seed exports go to China, which is worth about $2 billion per year, so it's a huge market right now, and there's significant opportunity to grow. We know that in China the middle class is demanding healthier oils, and of course, the protein that canola has as well is important to feeding livestock like fish in China. There's a huge opportunity to grow, and getting that stable access really allows our industry to continue investing and capitalizing on that opportunity.