I'm sorry, Ron. We're well over the time.
I'll just throw in a question here.
Where does the debt-to-GDP ratio come into this discussion? We have been holding pre-budget consultations across the country, and to Ron's point, there are people who wonder what the road map is going into the future, where the government is going to end up, but when we talk to Finance officials, they will come back to the debt-to-GDP ratio, which puts Canada in pretty good stead, I understand, so what about in that particular area?