We were given a blue sky approach. When Minister Morneau called, I had never met him before. I didn't know him. He basically said, “Your job is to come up with bold ideas that can help jolt growth.”
Sometimes we got into things such as “Well, that's an interprovincial issue”, or “What is the Department of Finance going to think about this?” He would say that it was his job to figure that out, and that, by the way, we were to come up with our ideas, but that didn't mean they were going to use them.
For example, we talked about—