Right. I think the first thing is that there are not enough infrastructure projects being done; there simply aren't. That's the first point.
The second point is that we think there's a benefit to the taxpayer of having more infrastructure being built.
The third point I make is that Canadians pay far less in terms of fees, tolls—however you want to put it—or availability payments, than anyone else does. We're on the far extreme side of that.
In terms or recycling, all we're saying is that some infrastructure projects may have been built—because a lot of private investors don't want to invest in pure greenfield projects—that could be made available for private investors to invest in if they are not looking for outrageous returns. That would free up money to allow more infrastructure to be built. That was the basis for the asset recycling, looking at things like airports. We think there would be a net benefit to taxpayers. They're run better, and again, doing this frees up more capital to invest in these other areas.
We had two round tables with indigenous groups. Carol Anne Hilton is a member of the council from Vancouver, and she is very involved. We've had a number of one-on-one sessions with groups. I was involved in about six of them. We have been engaging, and to your point, I think we are probably not doing enough, but if I look at what regions and so on are doing, it's very much.... We are trying to make sure that we have that lens where we are, but if there are other things you think we should be doing, I would love to hear about them, because we are probably missing some things. We're trying. That's what I would say on that.