Yes. I take the view that the government's participation in the housing market has been a net positive for Canadians. By virtue of owning 100% of CMHC, it is a public organization. It's an organization that, as people have indicated in some of the testimony I hear, has been very positive for the industry, and I believe that. But by virtue of owning 100% of CMHC—I'm going back now probably 15 to 20 years, if not longer—the government at the time wanted to encourage some competition to provide Canadians with choice.
On February 1st, 2017. See this statement in context.