Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Ms. Treurnicht and Mr. Sabia, thank you for your presentations and for your contribution to the committee. You're well-known within your profession. We're pleased to have this opportunity to meet with you and benefit from your advice.
Before I entered politics, I worked in post-secondary education. In your second report, you said that, in research and development, there's a lack of collaboration among universities, the private sector and the federal government. I agree.
The report also noted that, since the early 1990s, the private sector has reduced its learning, development and training investments for employees by 20%. Also, employers say that students aren't well trained.
Do you know of a model or country where the private sector, universities and the government work well together?