The issue right now is that they're not sending people into these programs until they're a mess. They're at their bottom, at their end, when they come to ask for help. They're saying, get me off the street. That's usually at a point when they're thinking about suicide, and very often they'll still have to wait months before they get to the program, right when they're at the end of their rope. What we're pushing for here is programming that will catch them at the earliest phase of developing issues with PTSD, rather than waiting until the end, because right now we get them into one-hour sessions maybe once or twice a week. That's like taking your car to the mechanic on a Monday and saying, “I need to drive to work every single day. I need it quickly”, and they come back at you saying, “We'll fix it, but we'll just work on it one hour a week.” It's going to go on forever. We need something foundational at square one. We don't want to see guys wait until they're at the end of their rope.
I have a story here that I just dug up. It's about two RCMP fellows who went to a program out of Toronto and were in it with organized crime members. They were completely uncomfortable about speaking. They were there for 10 weeks and they tried reaching out to the people through the chain, and the RCMP. They were told, “Just go through the program. Just do the check in the box and then you will get something on a form, and then you'll be able to come back to work. Just go through it. Just do it.” That's not good.