Could you just go a bit further on that? You were speaking to Ms. O'Connell about some of the failures of P3s and your experience in the United States. I understand, but what is it about the financing of it that, in particular, in your view, almost automatically leads to a problem?
Mr. Kingston would have a different point of view, that P3 models have worked. Is it because of the structure of the financing, or is it in terms of the endgame of the financing, when it reverts back to public ownership?