I think you and I can agree reasonably it's a transparent number as long as it's made public. Whether it's on the government's books or on the books of an independent crown corporation, that's still transparent because they're still reporting every year. The question is the magnitude of the debt compared to.... It looks far less leveraged when you put it in the overall categories of liabilities of government.
I'm just saying that to me if you were to have the other arrangement, it would just stick out like a sore thumb on a regular basis, while this way, the government can achieve its policy goals while—to me—minimizing that perception of the crown corporation.