No, I wasn't.
On the issue of universality—you've mentioned it, Mr. Kelly—other countries have put in place universal programs and universal wage subsidies.
Mr. Lachaîne also brought up the universality of the Canada emergency response benefit.
We have an emergency response benefit that is already set up and is universal in nature. The federal government just has to take off the penalties at the back end.
How important is universality in the approach to these programs, Mr. Kelly and Mr. Lachaîne?