Evidence of meeting #21 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was industry.

A recording is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Rami Kassem  President, Javaroma Gourmet Coffee and Tea
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. David Gagnon
Shaun Jeffrey  Executive Director, Manitoba Restaurant and Food Services Association
Andrew Oliver  President and Chief Executive Officer, Oliver and Bonacini Hospitality
David Lefebvre  Vice-President, Federal and Québec Affairs, Restaurants Canada
Marc Staniloff  Owner, Superior Lodging Corp
Rose Dennis  Second Vice-President and Executive Director of Explore Summerside, Tourism Industry Association of Prince Edward Island
Salah Elsaadi  Business Owner, As an Individual
Bob Lowe  President, Canadian Cattlemen's Association
Daniel Kelly  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Independent Business
Rick Bergmann  President of the Board, Canadian Pork Council
Mathieu Lachaîne  Chief Technical Officer, Sentiom Inc.
René Roy  First Vice-Chair, Canadian Pork Council
Dennis Laycraft  Executive Vice-President, Canadian Cattlemen's Association

5:25 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay. Mr. Cooper came on too soon there. That's okay. There's nothing we can do about it.

Ms. Dzerowicz, are you back on?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

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5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We still can't pick you up.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

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5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Am I the only one not hearing her? No, I see Peter shaking his head no.

We can't pick up your sound at all, Julie.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

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5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

We'll have to come back to you, Julie, if there's time. Talk to David or the technicians.

Annie, you're on.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Annie Koutrakis Liberal Vimy, QC

My question is directed to the meat producers. Canadian food security continues to be a priority during this pandemic. What are your facilities doing to ensure that production can continue while protecting the safety of your staff? What role can the federal government play in enhancing on-the-job safety for workers in the agriculture and agri-food industries?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Who wants to start first, the cattlemen or pork producers?

Go ahead, Dennis.

5:30 p.m.

Executive Vice-President, Canadian Cattlemen's Association

Dennis Laycraft

Thank you, Wayne.

That's a great question. We're in daily contact with our processors. They have been introducing a plethora of enhancements to their operations. Obviously, you want to create distancing. Where you can't, you create barriers that, effectively, are similar to the distancing. Even on arrival, you ensure that you're able to bring in the shifts efficiently. Many of those workers travel distances to get to the plant, and that has to be done safely. There's a whole range of solutions constantly being evaluated and worked on. Ensuring that enough personal protective equipment is available is another piece of this.

Getting back to our own members, we've been trying to provide weekly guidance out there on everything they can do. We all view them as front-line food workers, though what they're doing is really essential to maintaining food security in our country and assisting around the world where there are food shortages developing. So it's a great question. We want to sit down every day and figure out how to get as much reliability as we can in our system, moving forward. Of course, we have to protect our workers. We can't run these operations unless we're able to do that.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Annie Koutrakis Liberal Vimy, QC

I have one more question. It's for Dan Kelly, if I may.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Dan is back on. Go ahead.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

Annie Koutrakis Liberal Vimy, QC

What changes in consumer behaviour are you expecting as a result of COVID-19, how should small businesses adapt to these changes, and what role can the federal government play in supporting the transition to new business models that address the needs of consumers in a post COVID-19 economy?

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

That was a long single question, Dan, but go ahead.

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Independent Business

Daniel Kelly

I was trying to switch to a telephone. I don't know if this is any better.

5:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Yes, it's good.

5:30 p.m.

President and Chief Executive Officer, Canadian Federation of Independent Business

Daniel Kelly

Okay.

Look, many changes have already happened during the crisis. In any crisis there are some takeaways that will be beneficial for businesses to continue with afterward. Canada has been slow to adopt online commerce. I know that throughout the emergency, many firms have been moving quickly to try to ensure that they do have some online sales capacity available to them. Some have been looking at more take-out delivery and curbside pickup options. Some of that will stick. They will continue with that afterward, as they have the ball rolling now.

I would imagine that telecommuting will continue to grow even more significantly as a result of this. More and more firms will be looking to see what they can do by having staff work remotely, with all the positive, and some not-so-positive, implications of that. You would imagine also that automation in Canadian businesses will increase, because of course the firms that were earlier to automate may be a bit more insulated from some of the worst of this.

I think it will include a number of positive trends, but those trends also have implications for Canadian employers and for workers that we have to make sure we're careful to think about. It's one of the reasons I think it's so critical that we put in place some thinking around what we'll do to get us out of this situation. Of course, we're focused on the emergency phase right now, but keeping an eye on what measures we'll put in place to help guide and support businesses as they begin to reopen will be a critical element of this.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you.

We will try to go to a series of questions, if we can. We'll go to Gabriel Ste-Marie and Mr. Julian. Then we'll try Julie again. After that, we'll go to Mr. Poilievre and Elizabeth May.

Mr. Ste-Marie.

5:35 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

My question is for Mr. Roy, from the Canadian Pork Council.

What measures do you think are necessary to support your industry?

April 23rd, 2020 / 5:35 p.m.

First Vice-Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

We need swift and effective assistance. In the short term, we estimate that we'll need $20 per hog if we're going to survive this crisis. The demand for food is still there, and we are continuing to export, but the crisis could last months. We hope that will be enough. Beyond the crisis, it will help us to keep employing people and producing food for Canadians. Family-run farms are the ones doing this important work; they want to be farmers and are passionate about what they do.

5:35 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Thank you.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Thank you.

It might have been the translation, René, but it came through that the help you require is $20 per share. Could you explain that a little more?

5:35 p.m.

First Vice-Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

Yes. What I was saying is that we are looking for financial support of $20 per hog.

5:35 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Okay.

5:35 p.m.

First Vice-Chair, Canadian Pork Council

René Roy

If I may add to that, the reason is that it's also a matter of mental health. Right now, people are desperate to find solutions for their business. They have invested not only in their time, but must also have help so they can get through this.