Okay. Thanks to you both.
We do have a couple of minutes left here, so I will ask a question.
Bob, I know that hogs require a different program from the one for cattle, but you mentioned at the start that the set-aside program for the cattle industry is important right now. I think Pierre Poilievre and I might have been in Parliament when the last one was in place. John may understand it. Could you just explain the set-aside program a little bit and how it works? You're dealing with a lot of people on this committee who aren't in cattle production or who don't understand farming. Perhaps you could explain how that works in terms of going to maintenance rather than pushing them through, and what it means in terms of saving the economy and really probably saving the government money in the long run, because you're not going to use the safety net programs as much.
Dennis or Bob.