Sorry, Andy, but we're going to have to end it there.
I will say to witnesses that if you have a point you want to make, you aren't all up on my screen. I have to flip back and forth, but if you have a point that you really have to make, wave your hand. I can't guarantee I will see you, but I might see you and I'll let you in.
We'll turn to Mr. Gabriel Ste-Marie and then to Mr. Julian.