Sean, thank you for putting it that way. It certainly goes to what I've said before. Yes, we do need the provinces to work with us.
Quite frankly, in my many conversations with the Prime Minister himself, there are those in cabinet who recognize the concerns and the problems that municipalities sometimes have in dealing directly with our provincial counterparts.
What we're calling for, as much as anything.... Yes, the $10 billion to $15 billion is what we're looking at as a backstop to our financial losses, but we're—