There are two parts there. Let me deal with the last one first.
I don't pretend to be a medical doctor or an epidemiologist. I watch the press conferences every day, with the scientists around Trump, and of course read the medical reports in Canada.
I am really fascinated by Premier Legault of Quebec, who I think is doing some very innovative things in trying to bring the economy back while acknowledging that we do not have a vaccine for this. There are other illnesses, as we know, that have no vaccine. There is no vaccine for influenza, and although a lot of people get angry when you use that word, my late father died of pneumonia caused by influenza. It's not a trivial illness. It's a very horrible illness in its own right, yet we've managed to adapt and live with it and take precautions.
As to Europe, I've read everything I could get my hands on about the European countries. They're taking a risk-based approach that is advocated, by the way, in Canada by the C.D. Howe Institute in Toronto. We evaluate different occupations, different professions, different industries and different companies to determine the level of risk.
I think there is a path forward, because the total debt in our country—corporate, personal and government—is 350% of GDP. I urge everyone to read David Rosenberg's op-ed today in the Financial Post, which has unpacked the numbers.