I would use the government bond rate of 10 years. It's at around 0.6% right now, or roughly around that point. It would be going up to 1.6%. The average term structure is, as I said, 5.6%. Actually, Canada has a lot of short-term public debt, so one has to look at that a little more carefully. Obviously, one point would make a significant difference, and it would show up relatively quickly because we turn over our debt so quickly.
On June 4th, 2020. See this statement in context.