Mr. Chair, it seems that Mr. Gallivan has been disconnected.
Let me provide assurances that these measures would be for absolutely egregious cases, as Mr. Gallivan pointed out, organized crime. We have absolutely no interest in those who have made mistakes or have interpreted the attestation a different way. That's not what this is about. This is for the egregious cases of scale where we have individuals who are unequivocally trying to get the benefit illegally. They're going after 100, 200 or 300 CERB payments. It's that type of thing. Those kinds of egregious cases are really what we're after. It's definitely not anyone who would make a mistake.