Sure.
In terms of a hurdle rate, or a return rate, we don't have one. Unlike those institutions, those comparator ones that you noted—those were created to generate returns for their plan members, of course; they need a return to be able to meet their obligations going forward—our imperative, our mandate at its core, is to build new value-added and important infrastructure for Canadians. As we discussed earlier, oftentimes we can do that by taking equity. We can do that by providing market-based loans. We can do that by providing subsidized loans on a subsidized-interest-rate basis because that's the only way they make economic sense.
We measure, really, how much new value-added infrastructure we were able to facilitate and participate in and how much private capital we welcomed into those deals that wouldn't otherwise have been there.