No, not for good reason. In some cases it's for good reason, but if you'll let me explain the example.... In the Port of Montreal—or in any port, for that matter—it requires significant capital to build additional capacity in order to enhance Canada's trade position and contribute to Canada's GDP and to all the good things that enhanced trade does. A lender will not come to the table until that capacity has proven itself out, so one of the positions, one of the things—
On June 22nd, 2020. See this statement in context.