We have to stop there.
I do have one question for Mr. Van Wielingen. I talked earlier about the great divide that we have between the environment and the energy industry, and I made note of your three points.
We had the Green Budget Coalition in here earlier this morning, and I had a good talk with the gentleman afterwards. I think there is a real willingness to try to find some solutions here.
From your perspective, how can we get past these two sides basically talking past each other and utilize our natural resources and our energy industry in such a way that, over time, we move toward an environmental solution?