That's appreciated, Mr. Chair.
This is for either Ms. Wernick or Madam Hébert, whoever wishes to take it. This is in the context of COVID-19, with a public service that was squarely focused on helping as many Canadians as possible, millions of Canadians, and had devoted itself in that way, reorganizing itself particularly around things like CERB and other programs. Is it fair to say that the public service found itself in, if not an overwhelmed position, then certainly a challenged position? The context helps us to understand, in particular, the need to reach out to third parties.
If in the best of times third parties are looked to, then certainly one would think that during COVID-19 third parties would certainly be looked to. Is that a fair statement?