Evidence of meeting #45 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was sir.
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Conservative
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Liberal
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Conservative
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
No, it's not. It's a point of debate.
When a member alleges that it's going to net hundreds of millions of dollars, that needs to be cleared up, because we have different information on the record, and I want to know what is fact. That's the purpose of this hearing—
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Conservative
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NDP
Charlie Angus NDP Timmins—James Bay, ON
I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.
I know that you're really going out of your way here, but I never said that the Kielburger organization was going to be making hundreds of millions. Hundreds of millions were going to flow through their organization, and they were certainly going to get money out of that to cover.... And for a group that was just in financial free fall in March, this is certainly something that could be seen as....
How much they actually get, we don't know, Mr. Chair. That's what we're here to investigate.
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Mr. Angus, your exact words were “going to net hundreds of millions of dollars.” I wrote it down. Let's have clarity on the point. That's what I'm asking for. We need to establish the facts.
Gentlemen, if you could establish that, then we will go on to Mr. Cooper, followed by Mr. Fraser, Mr. Cumming and Ms. Koutrakis.
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Founder, WE Charity
I want to be explicitly clear, sir. Once again, this was a contribution agreement. We were not netting hundreds of millions of dollars. That is not correct. Sir, we were doing this as a request from ESDC, and we were only going to be reimbursed for expenses.
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Conservative
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Conservative
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
It's in writing. It's right there in the contribution agreement. Do you want me to get you the section?
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
Mr. Poilievre, you're on the list later on, if we get that far.
Craig, if you could answer—
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Conservative
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Founder, WE Charity
Sir, that's factually incorrect. The contribution agreement—
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Founder, WE Charity
The contribution agreement defines exactly the eligible expenses, exactly—
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Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
It says, “the Recipient may enter into contracts to procure goods and services from...WE Charity”—