I'll speak very briefly. I think there should be no controversy about this issue. The chief of staff was asked repeatedly. She said, as to whether or not there were PMO staffers who spoke to the WE organization in the period in question, that, yes, there were. A handful of staff members in the Prime Minister's Office, a handful she later defined to be five, spoke to the Kielburgers during the period in question. Then she said she would not release their names and she did not release a chronology of the dates of their conversations, nor did she release the content of their conversations.
Obviously we need to know this, because the government's entire case is that this whole strange program was dreamed up by the public service with no involvement or influence by the political arm of the government or the staff of the Prime Minister, but if these conversations occurred, then that might contradict that.
Finally, the Lobbying Act requires that all of these interactions be registered, and we have no registry of any such conversations, so we need to find out if the Lobbying Act was violated in the course of these conversations.
Thank you.