I've tried to be as clear as possible on this point. I firmly believe these two programs have different objectives and are delivered in very different ways.
The first one, the Canada summer jobs program, absolutely can be and is successfully delivered by the public service. It makes sense. We're in the business of providing this kind of program. Remember that at the same time there were massive public service breadth issues, bandwidth issues. We had been asking them to do so very much at that time, and they were doing it. They were doing the CERB, they were developing the CESB, and they were preparing for the seniors benefit. I could go on and on about my department alone.
The CSSG was different. It was about supporting students. It was about recognizing that non-profits were stretched, and as much as one can say that a non-profit had capacity, many of them didn't. Many of them said it's not as simple as giving us money for people. They said they didn't have the capacity to train people, to oversee them, and as many jobs as we created, there were not going to be enough jobs.
As I said, we thought that with the student benefit we could provide an opportunity to volunteer, but we needed a third party to deliver that program, as we do through YESS, the youth employment and skills strategy program. We regularly fund third party organizations through the YESS program on a much smaller scale to help young people find jobs. We were looking for a third party to help young people connect with volunteer opportunities and to support them through the entire experience, right through to providing them with a grant.