Certainly, our past experience has been that through programs, it hasn't worked very well. There was was a bit of a problem with it, because farms are at different points in their economic cycles. Some who had just made a major investment were not eligible, and it would have worked well for them to be able to reduce their debt. For others, they were well positioned to make those kinds of investments at that time. That's why, from what we're hearing from our members, it needs to be direct payments to farmers.
On February 6th, 2020. See this statement in context.