Evidence of meeting #1 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.
A recording is available from Parliament.
Conservative
Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC
Given that it has been established that everything was made public and that Mr. Fraser is talking about a fool's errand, I think most Canadians watching this—if anybody is still watching—would probably consider this committee meeting to be the fool's errand he is talking about.
It's really time to take a vote. Let's get on with it so that we can get on with business.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
I can't take a vote until the committee allows me to take that vote, Ms. Jansen. That's the problem.
Mr. Fraser, you have another point of order.
Liberal
Sean Fraser Liberal Central Nova, NS
Sure. It's related to a comment you just made.
My concern is not solely the presence or absence of transmittal letters. That's one concern, and it's a serious one. The bigger picture concern I am worried about, when looking at this motion, is that I know certain documents were made public. What I want to ensure is that all the documents that the government disclosed are part of the record.
No one has been able to clear up for me whether the documents that are the subject of the proposed amendment to the motion we're currently debating actually mirror the documents that the government provided. If we are not talking about the same set of documents, then of course the government will have failed to meet the request of this committee, but it wouldn't be because they chose not to disclose information.
You suggested it might be by amendment of the amendment, but is it possible to have someone, before we take a vote on the existing amendment, actually confirm that the two packages are identical?
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
The only person I could ask that is the clerk, who may be in communication with the analysts. Do you see a—
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
We're talking about 5,000 pages here plus. Could the clerk and the analysts take five minutes to look into this, and we'll come back to it?
Conservative
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
No, we're not going to suspend again to run on a fool's errand, as Mr. Fraser—
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Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
I think, Mr. Poilievre, it's really not. I don't have to move to vote.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
Motion to challenge the chair. Challenging the chair. I'm challenging your ruling.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
Motion to challenge the chair. I'm challenging your ruling.
Conservative
Pierre Poilievre Conservative Carleton, ON
Your ruling is that you can't move to a vote, and I'm challenging that.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter
I can't move to a vote until there's satisfaction among committee members to move to a vote.
