What we have said to Mr. Wilkinson and the government is they have a multi-pronged approach to addressing the problem of plastic waste. We agree it's a serious problem. We agree that industry has to lead. Industry has to pay. We support the extended producer responsibility to take it off the backs of municipal taxpayers and let industry pay for it.
We also understand, especially from our value chain, our customers, that they want more recycled content in their products. Our industry is going to have to deliver that. We don't support the ban, but more specifically, what will harm investment is using CEPA as the tool to achieve that by declaring plastics toxic. That is just a message that tells this global industry—I've told you how great the potential to grow quickly is—that Canada is just ambivalent about whether the money comes here or not. If we're ambivalent, it won't come here.