I just want to say that there's a difference. In Quebec, in particular, the program wasn't very popular because other loan programs had already been promoted, particularly in the cultural sector, by SODEC and by different organizations. In Quebec, the program was a little less useful and a little less in demand.
I gather that, for non-profit organizations in the rest of Canada, going into debt over and over again is an issue when they don't have the fixed assets or capital to ultimately support this.
Festivals and events are generally in a fairly precarious situation. In fact, the situation was precarious before the pandemic. Emerging from the pandemic with a number of debts constitutes a burden for the future and for the recovery process. We would like to ensure as strong a recovery as possible.