Evidence of meeting #32 for Finance in the 43rd Parliament, 2nd Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was pandemic.

A video is available from Parliament.

On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Éric Paquet  Senior Director, Public and Governmental affairs, Alliance de l'industrie touristique du Québec
Victoria Morton  As an Individual
Kevin Ladner  Chief Executive Officer, Grant Thornton LLP
Tara Benham  National Tax Leader, Grant Thornton LLP
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Donna Lee Demarcke  Chief Executive Officer, Northwest Territories Tourism
James Cohen  Executive Director, Transparency International Canada
Jean-Michel Ryan  Chairman of the Board, Alliance de l'industrie touristique du Québec
Judith Coates  Co-Founder, Association of Canadian Independent Travel Advisors
Evan Siddall  President and Chief Executive Officer, Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation
Dan Clement  President and Chief Executive Officer, United Way Centraide Canada
Pascale St-Onge  President, Fédération nationale des communications et de la culture
Brenda Slater  Co-founder, Association of Canadian Independent Travel Advisors
Julien Laflamme  Coordinator, Research and Women's Services, Confédération des syndicats nationaux, Fédération nationale des communications et de la culture
Nancy Wilson  Co-Founder, Association of Canadian Independent Travel Advisors

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

I realize that this would be an important detail. I can get that to you before the end of the meeting. It's in my email history.

I'm looking that up right now.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Okay.

Can you think of what it would have been approximately? Was it mid-June, or end of June?

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

It would be the end of the month, I think almost exactly, but let me confirm.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Okay.

With that being said, you do admit, then, that you are the EA who Craig was suggesting sent out the message to Ben Chin. Is that correct?

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As an Individual

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Was it approved by Craig? Did he see the message and approve it?

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

It's hard to say what kind of approval it would refer to. I would give him sort of batches at a time, and he would—

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

So he would have seen it, then. He would have seen it and said, yes, go ahead; you can send that.

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

Yes—or skim it. For level of approval I can't—

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

He would have actually read that message and said, yes, that's a good message.

The message to Ben Chin said, “Hello Ben, Thank you for your kindness in helping shape our latest program with the gov't. Warmly, Craig.” He would have approved that, then.

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

He would likely have had the opportunity to have.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

But did he? I mean, that's my question. Did he approve that exact message?

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

I wouldn't be able to confirm.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

So you don't necessarily get approval before sending something like that? It sounds like you do.

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

I give him any materials that I'm going to send out, available for his review, but he doesn't really do it word for word.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

How did you know that Ben Chin was helping in shaping that program? How would you have come up with that as a message?

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

Great question.

I don't want to [Technical difficulty—Editor] for that one, because I don't specifically remember the process. Typically—

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Well, this one was very important.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Mrs. Jansen, allow Ms. Morton time to answer.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Yes, I know, but the time is so short, and we're trying to find out why she would have said—

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

I know, but everybody has a problem with shortness of time.

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

I'll speak quickly.

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Conservative

Tamara Jansen Conservative Cloverdale—Langley City, BC

Okay.

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Liberal

The Chair Liberal Wayne Easter

Ms. Morton, answer as thoroughly as you can.

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As an Individual

Victoria Morton

I'll go as quickly as I can.

Essentially, I would have the name and I would look up both of them in our database, like our sales force.... I would look in his calendar. I would google them. Then I would just sort of put the puzzle pieces together, what they were probably most likely—