Sure, I'm happy to take that question, although I'm not sure I'll have a more satisfactory response. The HASCAP is delivered by the Business Development Bank of Canada, so information on the take-up of that program, its application pipeline and its traction in the business community is best addressed to that Crown corporation implementing the program. I have not heard that degree of concern that you've underlined, so it's certainly something I would like to follow up on and understand better.
We're already providing a number of written replies. Perhaps we could work with our colleagues at the Business Development Bank of Canada to provide a more fact-based response.