I'm sorry, but you're out of time.
Here's the situation. We have a little extra time. We can take an extra 20 minutes from the time this panel's done. I'll go to one question from Mr. Ste-Marie for two minutes and two for Mr. Julian. Ms. Jansen and Mr. Fragiskatos will have about four minutes each, and then we'll have a little discussion on that motion to see where people are at.
Go ahead, Mr. Ste-Marie.