This is really an ideal time, when we look at the cost, to take out new debt to pay for the things that we need to move away from reliance on fossil fuels, not only to get around in terms of transportation but also in terms of key industries in particular provinces. This is the time to start to develop just transition strategies, so that workers who did work in oil and gas, who made good money working in oil and gas and flew in to work in that sector, can find someplace else where they can also make good money. It's not reasonable to simply abandon workers on this path to net zero.
That's not going to happen tomorrow. It's not going to happen by 2025. It's going to happen by 2040 or 2050. But now is the time to start, particularly at a time when we can make critical investments in those areas. It's not a time to put this off out of some fear of high interest costs when we have such low interest costs on new debt that we might incur toward that end.