Thank you, Mr. Julian.
Absolutely. As you know, Revera, as I said in my statement, is a wholly owned subsidiary of the public service pension plan, which we find absolutely appalling. It's worth quite a bit of money, actually. Yes, we want our members' pension plan invested in the best interest of the members, but we also want those monies invested in the public interest as well. When we have pension plan money invested in Revera, which has an absolutely appalling record of health care, we find it shameful.
We've called on the government, and I personally have called on the President of the Treasury Board, to start having discussions around transferring that to the provinces, having those bilateral discussions with the provinces, with the health authorities in the various provinces and territories, so that we can transform that into publicly owned rather than for-profit privately owned. As I said and as you stated, the record is absolutely appalling. To have a Crown corporation of the government investing in those kinds of things, we just can't understand it, to be quite honest.