Well, I think we also have to remember that we're building up debt very quickly, so the base is getting larger. Right now, we're at $1.2 trillion. I've worked out the forecast for 2025, assuming that the $100 billion of extra spending is adopted. We are going to end up having $1.6 trillion in debt, which doesn't include other provincial debt and doesn't include unfunded liability.
If you have a rise in interest rates, particularly on this very much larger base.... Let's say that on average they go up from 1.5% to 3%. That will double, plus we've more than doubled the size of the debt, so we've quadrupled the size of the debt. All of a sudden those interest expenses start becoming a much bigger part of the budget and much more expensive, and we end up putting more money of our tax dollars into paying interest than we do in trying to fund other—