Certainly retention is a problem overall in the government.
Again, when the current government basically forces its workforce out on strike for decent wages and decent working conditions, obviously that just frustrates workers, and it then causes workers to start looking elsewhere. When you look at certain bargaining groups within the federal public service, and when you look at what the private sector pays people to do the same job, a lot of the federal public sector workers are underpaid when you look across the board at the private sector.
I know a lot of our members are looking elsewhere and wanting to leave the public service. They thought public life was their career, and they are now realizing that maybe it's not, simply because of the working conditions.