I would go back to some of the people we've talked to with disabilities. We did a bit of a consultation process with all people with disabilities around the Canada disability benefit, and we heard from a lot of people. The thing that struck me the most was individuals who spoke about getting by on just one meal a day. Two meals to them would be a luxury. It's not a luxury for us, obviously, but just surviving on basically nil food.... Can you imagine?
This is Canada. This is the country Canada. Why should anybody be starving and living on the streets in poverty in our country? It is unfathomable.