I would pick up on the interest deductibility issue. The utility industry, gas and electric, has in the tens of billions of dollars of debt that it uses to finance wires, pipelines, transformers, etc. The carrying cost on that debt, the interest, is what's being proposed to be remitted federally. We're suggesting that this not happen.
It's an element of the money either going to the federal treasury or staying with consumers. I would argue that's a saving for consumers because they don't have to pay it to the federal treasury. Therefore, the treasury doesn't have it to spend. It's probably a net-neutral, but the point is, why do we pay it if it's going to go into the coffer and then be allocated out?