The short answer is that we absolutely would agree with the statements that were made previously. As interest rates go up and the government starts to refinance debt, debt service costs go up. That means less money to put into social programming, health programming, things for poverty and housing, economic reconciliation and so on.
That said, there are many ways to grow that pie, which is really what you want to do. You don't want to tax the same people more. You want to grow that base. We need to be competitive, as Chuck said. Anything that makes us globally competitive, that gets more foreign direct investment and resource development here, that gets first nations and indigenous communities more directly involved in that economic development as true partners, that is the way to success. That is the way to grow that pie.