Thank you.
I don't mean to interrupt, but there's limited time.
I want to carry this conversation over to Mr. Strain.
We had Robert Asselin from the Business Council of Canada at the finance committee a couple of weeks ago. He gave us some fairly sobering testimony. He said that, in the context where the government has increased spending dramatically and, in fact, has doubled our federal national debt from $600 billion to $1.2 trillion in only eight years, anemic economic growth, combined with high interest rates, is going to make government spending on important social programs—like, for example, helping food banks—unsustainable.
I wonder if you agree with Mr. Asselin's position on that and what government should be doing to get our economic growth going, given the fact that so much has been spent to achieve so little in such a short time.