I'll continue, then. I have another question for the minister.
Minister, I have to establish for you, since you won't answer yourself, that the interest charge on Canadian taxpayers, because of your government's debt, is $52.4 billion.
Health transfers next year are going to be $52.1 billion. Why are you paying bankers, bondholders and your Bay Street buddies more money than what doctors, nurses and the health care system will get next year?