All right, then very quickly to Ms. Bowers, I wonder if you have this information with you today and, if not, maybe you could follow up with the committee. Prior to the cancellation of the national housing strategy in the mid-1990s by the then-Liberal government, CMHC was very much involved in regularly delivering new social housing units regularly, every year. That predictability of funding made it easier for non-profits, co-operatives and others to acquire land and to do planning so they could develop proposals proactively rather than trying to react when land or buildings became available.
I'm wondering if you could give us a sense of the number of units that CMHC helped to create at that time versus their average number of units per year over the last 25 years or so.