Evidence of meeting #133 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was carbon.
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1:15 p.m.
Conservative
Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON
Thank you.
In the interest of time, Conservatives would be agreeable to passing both motions on division.
1:15 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
That's good to know. Thank you, MP Lawrence, for that.
MP Ste-Marie.
1:15 p.m.
Bloc
Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
I'm in favour of Mr. Baker's motion as written.
I'd like to inform you that Mr. Roger, our invaluable clerk, has sent you my amendment to Mr. Blaikie's motion. With respect to the national school food program for children, I would like to add a right for Quebec to withdraw with full compensation.
If Mr. Blaikie and everyone else agree with this amendment, I will move it; this would mean that I also support Mr. Blaikie's motion.
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
MP Ste-Marie, thank you for that.
Is there any discussion on that?
MP Blaikie.
1:20 p.m.
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
I think we could pass the amendment on division, but we should have a recorded vote on the motion.
1:20 p.m.
Conservative
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
I have a question for Mr. Ste-Marie on his amendment.
Mr. Ste‑Marie, I am attempting to understand your amendment and how it would affect Mr. Blaikie's motion. Can you explain why you are proposing this change? What impact would it have?
1:20 p.m.
Bloc
Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC
Given that education is a Quebec and provincial power and that we in the Bloc Québécois defend Quebec's areas of jurisdiction, the purpose of the amendment is to underscore the fact that if a Canada-wide national school food program for children were established, Quebec would have to have its own program and be funded for it.
Everything else in the motion would remain the same. That's the only impact the change would have. It's the sort of amendment that the Bloc Québécois often makes.
1:20 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
From a process perspective, I'm comfortable with what's been proposed. On Mr. Blaikie's motion and the amendment, I would need a moment to confer with my colleagues.
I would ask, if possible, that we suspend to have that discussion.
1:25 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
No, I don't need more time.
My understanding is that we were going to start with the procedural motion that I had—
1:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
I think yours passed already on division. Yours is done, so we are on the amendment.
1:25 p.m.
Liberal
Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON
There may be debate—I appreciate that—but I want to request a recorded vote on the amendment.
1:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Okay. That's where we are right now.
Does anybody else want to speak to this?
MP Blaikie.
1:25 p.m.
NDP
Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB
I feel obliged to put on the record on behalf of the New Democrats that our concern about withdrawal with full compensation, with no further talk about the importance of.... We know that 800,000 Quebeckers used a food bank in the last year, for instance, and when there is no talk about enhancing an existing program within Quebec, it is a challenge. We want to see those investments also come to Quebec to benefit children in schools through a nutrition program, which is why I'll be voting no on the amendment.
1:25 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
Is there anyone else before we go to the vote? No.
(Amendment negatived: nays 6; yeas 5 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
1:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
It doesn't pass, so now we are back to debate on the main motion, if there is any further debate.
1:30 p.m.
Liberal
The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca
I don't see anybody else wanting to speak, so we'll go to a recorded division, which is what MP Blaikie asked for.
(Motion agreed to: yeas 7; nays 4 [See Minutes of Proceedings])
That is it, members. Shall we adjourn?
1:30 p.m.
Some hon. members
Agreed.