—with the fact that the rules clearly state that associate members—and every member of Parliament is an associate member of every committee—may not vote, move motions or be counted for purposes of quorum but, beyond that, are able to participate. In order to move a point of order, they don't need to be subbed in. That is the point.
I don't know what page it is on, but it's in chapter 20. It's the sixth paragraph down. I encourage you to read that again so you understand that, in order to be recognized by the committee, I don't have to be subbed in. That is the point we are trying to make here, and that is the—