On that point, Mr. Turnbull, as I mentioned before, any communications between me, as the acting chair, and the clerk are private. I can't confirm any claim that it's anything other than that, because those conversations are private.
I explained before the reasoning behind continuing with the Standing Order 106(4) request, which was asked for by this committee. In the experience I've had, when a Standing Order 106(4) request is brought forward by more than one party, which is what happened in this case, a meeting is called.
We discussed the Standing Order 106(4) request. In that discussion, Mr. Turnbull challenged the chair, and the ruling was overturned. After that, the discussion went back to the subamendment from the last meeting we had. Once Mr. Lawrence brought forward another motion to continue with the Standing Order 106(4) request, as far as I remember, there were four votes to continue from the Conservatives and the Bloc. It was voted down by the Liberals and the NDP. That is why we are where we are right now.
That's an answer both for you, Mr. Turnbull, and for Mr. Morantz.
Next I have Mr. Chambers on this point of order.