Evidence of meeting #147 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site.) The winning word was clauses.

A recording is available from Parliament.

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Émilie Thivierge  Legislative Clerk

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I will speak to it very briefly.

As I was indicating, on March 13, over 80 civil societies, settlement agencies and religious organizations wrote a strongly worded letter to the Prime Minister with their concerns around expanding immigration detention into federal prisons.

Earlier today, the provisions around setting up this format were passed, but with that being said, this amendment is an attempt by the NDP to at least try to put some parameters within that framework, to have “high risk” clearly defined in legislation rather than leaving it up to regulation and having it be defined behind closed doors.

To that end, Mr. Chair, that's what the amendment seeks to do. The definition of “high risk” is really meant to provide some limitations around what would be deemed as high risk in this instance.

Mr. Chair, I just want to highlight a couple of elements within that. I won't, of course, read the entire amendment into the record here.

Really, we attempted to put some parameters there as to the nature and level of danger to the public the person poses related to, for example, any conviction to do with sexual offences or an offence involving violence or weapons and for the same conviction outside of Canada. As well, there are provisions with regard to pending charges for these offences. Also, we wanted to put parameters around engagement with terrorism or gang activities and such.

Mr. Chair, I think these are some of the provisions for declaring what is deemed to be “high risk” in that context.

The other thing worth noting here is that we're also adding to this with an amendment around mental health; when considering these matters, the mental health aspect of the individual should also be taken into consideration. That's written within the amendment here.

Of course, there are some accountability measures related to it, which means that when someone is to be detained, there has to be some level of accountability with respect to written notice advising the individual as such and then, of course, allowing the individual to undertake representation if they seek to do so.

That's a quick summary of where it is at in terms of trying to put these parameters in place.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, MP Kwan.

I have PS Turnbull, who would also like to speak to this.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Very briefly, thanks to the member for bringing this forward. I think this is a good amendment that reflects the advocacy of both parliamentarians and senators, so we're happy to support this.

Thanks.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, PS Turnbull.

I don't see anybody else.

Shall NDP-26.1 carry?

(Amendment agreed to [See Minutes of Proceedings])

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Mr. Chair, could we get a recorded vote on this, please?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It just carried. It just went through.

June 4th, 2024 / 4:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Okay.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I'm sorry, MP Kwan. I didn't get it before I asked for the vote.

Shall clause 438, as amended, carry?

(Clause 438 as amended agreed to on division)

(On clause 441)

Now we are at clause 441 and amendment NDP-27.1.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Don Davies NDP Vancouver Kingsway, BC

It is so moved, Mr. Chair.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Davies has moved that amendment. I just need to read something in here, because it has been moved.

Members, just so everybody is aware, if NDP-27.1 is adopted, NDP-28 cannot be moved due to a line conflict.

Would anybody like to speak to NDP-27.1?

MP Kwan, please go ahead.

4:10 p.m.

NDP

Jenny Kwan NDP Vancouver East, BC

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.

If I could just take a couple of moments to speak to this, this clause speaks to the sunset clause in the bill. My amendment seeks to reduce the sunset clause to two years, Mr. Chair. I hope committee members will support it.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

On NDP-27.1, PS Turnbull, go ahead.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

Just very quickly, yes, we appreciate Ms. Kwan and the NDP's advocacy on this. We will be supporting it.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Shall NDP-27.1 carry?

It carries.

4:10 p.m.

Bloc

Gabriel Ste-Marie Bloc Joliette, QC

Perhaps it's time to request a recorded vote. Did Ms. Kwan request one?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It's actually just gone through again. Nobody said anything. It's carried.

Shall clause 441 as amended carry?

It's carried.

Members, we are now on clause—

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

On a point of order, can we have a quick suspension? I think we made a bit of an error on our end.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are suspended.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, everybody, for the time.

Yes, PS Turnbull, go ahead.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

Ryan Turnbull Liberal Whitby, ON

I apologize, colleagues, but I was a bit confused on NDP-27.1. We're moving quite quickly, I admit—and that's a good thing, of course; we're making lots of progress—but we would like to revisit the vote on NDP-27.1, and I ask for the committee's consent to do so.

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

For that to be, PS Turnbull, we need unanimous consent to open clause 441, and then, of course, unanimous consent to go back to NDP-27.1.

MP Lawrence.

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

Conservatives agree to UC, but when I woke up this morning I did not expect to be accused by the Liberal Party of moving their budget through too quickly.

4:30 p.m.

Some hon. members

Oh, oh!

4:30 p.m.

Conservative

Philip Lawrence Conservative Northumberland—Peterborough South, ON

(On clause 441)

4:30 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We have unanimous consent, so now, members, we're back on clause 441 and NDP-27.1.

Does it have to be moved again? No. NDP-27.1 is reopened.