As Val mentioned in her opening remarks, we talked to small and medium-sized business owners before we started this journey. We talked to hundreds of them, about 500 or 600. We went sector by sector, region by region, and asked them what they needed to do more work-integrated learning or what they needed to do it if they weren't already doing it.
More often than not, as Val said, paying the student was not the barrier. It was building that HR capacity to create the experiences, figuring out the intricacies of how to mentor students, providing quality assessment or creating programs where they just didn't exist by partnering with that local post-secondary institution.
That's the capacity-building and partnership function that we offer and that we see as being critical to the ecosystem.