Evidence of meeting #19 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was chair.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Maximilian Baylor  Senior Director, Saving and Investment Section, Business Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Pierre Leblanc  Director General, Personal Income Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Pierre Mercille  Director General, Sales Tax Legislation, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Phil King  Director General, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Robert Ives  Senior Advisor, Sales Tax Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Lindsay Gwyer  Director General, Legislation, Tax Legislation Division, Tax Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Cameron MacDonald  Assistant Deputy Minister, Strategy, Integration and Data, COVID-19 Testing Secretariat, Department of Health
Galen Countryman  Director General, Federal-Provincial Relations and Social Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Anamika Mona Nandy  Executive Director, Temporary Measures and Special Projects Division, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Sylvain Noël  Manager, Policy Analysis and Initiatives, Employment Insurance Policy, Skills and Employment Branch, Department of Employment and Social Development
Stephen Bent  Acting Vice-President, COVID-19 Vaccine Rollout Task Force, Public Health Agency of Canada
Ling Wang  Senior Director, Financial Programs and Strategy, Financial Services Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Brian J. Arnold  Professor Emeritus, As an Individual
Amanjit Lidder  Senior Vice President and Partner, Tax Services, MNP LLP
Kim G. C. Moody  Chief Executive Officer, Moodys Private Client LLP
Jamie Irving  Chair, News Media Canada
Paul Deegan  President and Chief Executive Officer, News Media Canada
Gisèle Tassé-Goodman  President, Provincial Secretariat, Réseau FADOQ
Danis Prud'homme  Chief Executive Officer, Provincial Secretariat, Réseau FADOQ
Carol Anne Hilton  Chief Executive Officer, Indigenomics Institute, As an Individual

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

On the point of order.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

We are unable to vote for at least another eight minutes. I'm curious as to whether we could just get some confirmation from the clerk or yourself on the request for additional materials while we have our officials still here for the last five minutes of this meeting, so that we are clear about which information has been requested. If you'd like I could go through the list.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Very quickly, MP Chambers, because we will suspend here for the vote.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

We still have seven minutes before we can vote.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Members may be wanting to go to the House. I don't know, MP Chambers, so I can't say. You have 30 seconds and then I will suspend.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

My colleague, Mr. Blaikie, asked for examples of exemption by regulation done previously. We've asked for the impact of reciprocation analysis on the vacant foreign ownership tax. We've asked for the buildup of locations and the numbers of impacted properties. We've also asked for the information on what the average farmer is expected to receive back and that should be included through percentage of farmers and what they can expect to receive back on the fuel.

I would also open it up to the rest of the floor for my colleagues to make recommendations on what they have asked for, but that's what I had on my list, Mr. Chair.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

I have a point of clarification, Mr. Chair.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Baker.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

Is this going to count against the member's time? There are things that I'd like to clarify as well, but I've limited myself to my five-minute increment. I just want to make sure we're all getting equal time.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

Technically we can go until noon.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, MP Baker.

MP Chambers, members, we are getting close to the time.

Clerk, we'll suspend for our vote and that will conclude this panel.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

Mr. Chair, on a point of order, can we—

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are suspending—

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

No. We can't suspend on a point of order, Mr. Chair. Thank you very much.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We are suspended. There is no point of order—

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

No, we cannot suspend at this point in time.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

You did not have the floor, Mr. McLean.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

You did not have the floor.

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

We have suspended—

11:55 a.m.

Conservative

Greg McLean Conservative Calgary Centre, AB

I have a point of order, Mr. Chair.

My point of order is that this be clarified. The clerk addressed the question directly. Anyone that Mr. Baker wants to add, as well, to responses from the officials....

It's an easy matter.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

Yvan Baker Liberal Etobicoke Centre, ON

On a point of order, Mr. Chair, there is no use for you to continue. We must adjourn for the vote.

11:55 a.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

There is no unanimous consent.

We are suspending now. Thank you.

12:20 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Welcome back, everybody.

This is the second panel we have today. We are on pre-budget consultations, in advance of the 2022 budget.

With us today we have, as an individual, Brian Arnold, professor emeritus; and also as an individual, Carol Anne Hilton, chief executive officer, Indigenomics Institute.

From MNP LLP, we have Kim Drever, a partner in tax services; and Amanjit Lidder, senior vice-president and partner in tax services.

From Moodys Private Client LLP, we have Kim Moody, chief executive officer.

From News Media Canada, we have Jamie Irving, who's the chair; and Paul Deegan, president and chief executive officer.

From Réseau FADOQ, we have Gisèle Tassé-Goodman, president, provincial secretariat; Danis Prud'homme, chief executive officer, provincial secretariat; and Philippe Poirier-Monette, collective rights adviser, provincial secretariat.

They will all have an opportunity to give their five-minute opening remarks.

I am going to look to the members. I agree that we should have the hour. We lost some time here during the vote.

Members, could I just see a shake of heads that we can go past one o'clock?