Evidence of meeting #21 for Finance in the 44th Parliament, 1st Session. (The original version is on Parliament’s site, as are the minutes.) The winning word was information.

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On the agenda

MPs speaking

Also speaking

Clerk of the Committee  Mr. Alexandre Roger
Sophie Amberg  Director, Review and Analysis Division, Charities Directorate, Canada Revenue Agency
Isabelle Jacques  Assistant Deputy Minister, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Manuel Dussault  Senior Director, Framework Policy, Financial Institutions Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance
Samantha Maislin Dickson  Assistant Deputy Minister, Public Safety, Defence and Immigration Portfolio, Department of Justice
Julien Brazeau  Director General, Financial Crimes and Security Division, Financial Sector Policy Branch, Department of Finance

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

It was not moved; no motion was moved.

MP Fragiskatos has the floor.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

On that same point of order, if I may, Mr. Chair, can we just hear from Mr. Chambers to that effect?

I took his intention to mean to move the motion.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

I did not hear that.

4:05 p.m.

NDP

Daniel Blaikie NDP Elmwood—Transcona, MB

I'd appreciate some clarification from him.

4:05 p.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

Thank you, Mr. Blaikie and thank you, Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, it was my intention to put that motion to the floor.

I hope we could deal with it expeditiously. It is on the floor. If we want to have the break now and then discuss it, I'd be happy to do that. I would hope we could deal with that motion perhaps by unanimous consent.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Chair, if I could....

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

We had our hands up.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

I'm sorry, Julie. I can't see the hands up on my end.

4:05 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Dzerowicz, I apologize. Yes, I could not see the members. My apologies.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

That's okay. I think Sophie was before me. I don't mind, if she has a comment before I do.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

Actually, you were first, Julie.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Julie Dzerowicz Liberal Davenport, ON

Mr. Chair, I welcome taking the break right now. Since I haven't seen the motion, I'd love to see it before we actually discuss it. We could move this to the end if that is amenable, since this is an outstanding and excellent conversation. We could start it either after the break or at the very end.

My preference is for the very end because I think we're actually getting through a lot of information. I'm okay to discuss this at the end, if Mr. Chambers is amenable. I'm happy to do it even in the last 15 minutes.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Thank you, MP Dzerowicz.

MP Chambers.

4:10 p.m.

Conservative

Adam Chambers Conservative Simcoe North, ON

I would be open to that if I could get clarification that, since this motion is considered to be on the floor, it will be voted upon before the end of the meeting. In that case, I would be more than happy to move this to the last 15 minutes of the meeting.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Are any other hands up, Clerk?

Madame Chatel.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Sophie Chatel Liberal Pontiac, QC

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Echoing my colleague, I would like to read it too. Mr. Chambers went very fast. I assume we don't have it in French. That's okay, but I would like to have a bit of time to read it.

Thank you.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Are any other hands up?

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Yes, Chair, there are hands up from the floor, here in Ottawa.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

Peter Fragiskatos Liberal London North Centre, ON

Thank you.

I would suggest that if we are in fact going to leave this motion until the last 15 minutes, if we could have a break right before that so that all members have looked at it and discussed it, that would be helpful as well. It doesn't have to be very long.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Mr. Fragiskatos.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

My apologies. I was on mute.

Can the clerk see any other hands up?

4:10 p.m.

The Clerk

There are no more hands up, sir.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

Okay, so it's about taking a break to have the members take a look at the motion and have a bio-break as well. We're also looking to have the motion in French.

I'm just going to see how the members....

Clerk, can you scan the room, please?

4:10 p.m.

The Clerk

There's Ms. Dzerowicz.

4:10 p.m.

Liberal

The Chair Liberal Peter Fonseca

MP Dzerowicz.