I mean, probably not much if the payment programs they're talking about are $10 a month or $25 a month. They've said, “Oh, we'll work with folks within their given capacity”, but I'm telling the committee here that there is not even that extra $25 or $10. I think some people were so scared that they have cobbled together and borrowed money and paid back some of the amounts.
We're talking upwards of about.... I think the maximum repayment is about $14,000 per family. That was the maximum. For most of the cases, this money does not exist.
Our new social contract was to stay at home, isolate at home, stock up on your groceries, get your food delivered and buy your PPE and extra cleaning supplies. For your kids, buy more computers and increase your broadband so they can learn at home and socialize at home. These were real costs. The CERB and the CRB went to those items, to those itemized things. The money is just not there in the bank accounts for them to be able to repay. I think the federal government is really only going to get a negligible amount back—if any.