Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Thank you to all the officials who've joined us today. It takes a lot of work to put together a bill of this size. It's one of the largest we've seen, so thank you for all of your hard work. I'm glad we're not billing by the hour with the number of people we have, but it's good to have so much intellectual capacity here.
My colleague Mr. Baker started by talking a little bit about fiscal responsibility, so perhaps I'll take the opportunity just to ask a few high-level questions. What is the spending growth from this year, projected, versus the year just before COVID? That's the 2019-2020 year versus the 2022-23 projected year.
While we look it up, I'll give you the numbers I see. Maybe we can see whether they're correct. In 2019-20, it was $360 billion. In 2022 it was about $450 billion. I'm rounding some these numbers. That includes the debt management charge. Is that about right?